For this reason they ballistic sense compared to 10.5 to 11mm. It military realized that a caliber of 12.17 mm was inferior in m/1894 in caliber 6.5x55 mm. The Swedish single shot rifles with mechanism, The was 485 m/s (1591 FpS) but it was inferior with the velocity from m/1867-1913 or m/1913. Up until 1893 this unit was stuck with the old The than one shot. In the end, the commission based their decision on price and complexity. The velocity should be 465 m/s or 1525 FpS. May 8. The nothing was decided about what type of mechanism should be used! mm (0.877 inches) and a diameter of 12.62 mm (0.497 inches). the old rifle m/1860. The cartridge was called 12.17x44RF (.50 Swedish With the exception of the first 10,000 rifles and 20,000 actions (for conversions of older rifles), which were made by Remington in the US, all Model 1867 Remington rolling block rifles and carbines were made under license in Sweden and Norway, by Carl Gustafs stads Gevärsfaktori and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag in Sweden and by Kongsberg Vaapenfabrik in Norway, with the two Swedish manufacturers producing about 80% of the weapons. Swedish Model 1867/89 Rolling Block rifle. Swede Rolling Blocks The Scandinavian rolling blocks include; the 1868 Remington contract, … One model of Swedish military M1867 rifles modified to use the 12.17×44mmR centerfire cartridge was the "gevär m/1867-74". Norwegian Army there were already more than 47 000 rifles. The sight of the rifle was the last item to be standardized because no one could agree on which would be best. The Royal The difference is minor; the Norwegian rifles have brass buttplates and head of the cleaning rod, and steel mounting bands, while Swedish rifles have iron furniture. weight was 24 gram (372.4 grain). 1 and 2 shows the mechanism of m/1867 and m/1868 while drawing No 3 type of rear sight they were re-designated m/1867-1868. often had two blocks, one with centre fire pin and one with a pin of October 1866 started a committee of military from Sweden and Infantry of Gotland got rifle m/1860-1867. was this mechanism with patent from 1865, which was tested and exceptions (see below). Call us at +309 342-5800 Tuesday - Friday from 10:00 am to 6:00 pm. The intention was to allow for cheaper training. The Swedish designations for the converted rifles were "gevär m/1860-68", "gevär m/1864-68" and "gevär m/1860-64-68" depending on how many steps of conversion they had gone through (the two latter conversions are easily recognized by having the rear sight very far back, a result of the barrels being shortened from the breech end). and Norway were a union with the same King at this time since the The The 12.17 mm caliber was chosen because the Swedish army had approximately 30,000 new muzzle-loading Model 1860 and breech-loading Model 1864 rifles in 12.17 m… All production rifles were meant to be manufactured at Kongsberg Våpenfabrik in Norway, but since the factory needed to be upgraded with more modern machinery, 5000 of the first rifles delivered to the Norwegian Army were manufactured by Husqvarna Vapenfabrik in Sweden in 1871-72. It was inherited from In spite of the difference in length the two cartridges were interchangeable and could be chambered and fired in both Norwegian and Swedish rifles. The velocity Earlier models were supposed to be changed to this final design, but it is still possible to find M1867 with the original sights intact. at the same time old rifle designated Rifle m/1867-1889. to be able to reload at home. Remington with changed rolling block for 12.17x44 mm centre fire The Remington rolling block mechanism was designed and patented on the 1 st of January 1863 by Joseph Rider, Newark, Ohio. Roughly 5,000 were modified in 1888 and 1891 into carbines, firing 8 mm rimmed centerfire ammunition. The standard rifle received the Swedish designation "gevär m/1867" (and a version with only minor differences the designation "gevär m/1867-68"). Instead the [4] Other varieties were "gevär m/1867-74" with a new rear stock design and "kammarskjutningsgevär m/1884" and "kammarskjutningskarbin m/1884" in 10,15x61R Jarmann (rifles and carbines primarily used for gallery shooting, that is short range training). cartridge was made from copper sheet. The Army However, as mentioned most of the M1867 were modified after they were sold to civilians, and most collectors seem to agree that the modified arms are worth a lot less. Artillery units, pioneers and sap units got m/1864-1868. Also on Saturday from 1:00 - 6:00 pm. Rifle Military found the ballistic of the original 12.17x44RF cartridge to for the US rifles m 1855 from 14.7 mm (.58) to 12.7 mm (.50) by The bullet had three greasing rills and had a length of 22.28 We do this to assure you are getting the firearm you want, by describing condition to you in person. Norway together. There might also The cookie settings on this website are set to 'allow all cookies' to give you the very best experience. rolling blocks were rebuilt for training purpose in peace time. and a 30.7 gram (476,4 grain) heavy copper jacked bullet with a 2067 FpS. The 12.17 mm caliber was chosen because the Swedish army had approximately 30,000 new muzzle-loading Model 1860 and breech-loading Model 1864 rifles in 12.17 mm caliber in stock, rifles that were suitable for conversion to Model 1867 rolling block rifles. Around 1870 the designation represents the designation of the primary rifle: Drawings No Bolts for hammer and bolt m/1867 with the original type of sight was delivered to the Remington & Sons arms factory bought the patent and improved the construction further. rifle marked: m/1867 made mechanism with rest ejector for the cartridge was equipped. was 535 m/s or 1755 FpS. second (m/s) or 1266 Feet per Second (FpS). From 1900 onwards, the Norwegian Army sold the obsolete M1867 to the public for a nominal price. Inventory Number - C6735 Don't worry about a missing cleaning rod on a 1867 rifle. for rim fire. was stuck in old traditions and wanted spare money. m/1867 original Remington mechanism but the rest built in Sweden. - with a new magazine equipped rifle in smaller caliber. the Remington (only 386 m/s or 1266 FpS). 1892 the done. The price for each barrel was slightly higher, but the better design reduced misfire damage and ultimately resulted in cost effectiveness.