One of the most famous is at Civitavecchia near Rome, which sheds tears of "blood". Even scientists had to prove their assertions. It is in their nature. are the ones who review them. The best medical experts (those who sit on the boards that certify specialists, the heads of medical colleges, etc.) It is easy just to blow the horn and prove nothing and then ask the others to prove what is proven. You can also choose to be emailed when someone replies Are you sure you want to submit this vote? Log in to update your newsletter preferences, Monday - Friday plus breaking news alerts by email. On the History Channal a few years ago there was a program on miracles and a priest said that scientictics use the term ‘spotaneous remission’ for ‘mircles’. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, : The views and opinions expressed in these forums do not necessarily reflect those of Catholic Answers. I have made adjustments to get around the problem. It is like claiming it is a miracle when the sun comes up (if I can use the old-Church dogma as an expression), or when we wake up after being asleep. I mean, skeptics saying any sentence and that be true is a true miracle !!! continue to respect all commenters and create constructive debates. Newest first, -1) ? Guidelines. Sounds like an atheist version of the God of the Gaps argument, to me. to your comment. How come all we get are fuzzy photos from old Portuguese newspapers, things that happen anyway like cancers failing to grow and dying because of their poor bioinfrastructure and so on? Newest first, -1) ? Dr Garlaschelli said: ''I notice that, among these weeping madonna miracles, the only one accepted by the Catholic Church happened in Siracusa in 1953. Furthermore, they noticed the milk dribbling down and pooling on the ground. Sceptics say that the miracles we use as evidence for beatifications and canonisations are not really miracles, but due to either spontaneous remission or some other medical reason as of yet unknown. real-world solutions, and more. The last month I've had the chance to see a documentary in the Italian public television about Lourdes, and naturally they talked about miracles. Some of the ‘methods’ used to ‘disprove’ God’s power (and existence) take more faith then believing in God. Has this scientist finally found the fountain of youth? Are you sure you want to delete this comment? Their tale grew in popularity, culminating with an estimated 70,000 people showing up at the site on October 13th, waiting for a miracle. But if barely perceptible scratches are made in the glazing over the eyes, droplets of water appear as if by divine intervention - rather than by capillary attraction, the movement of water through sponge-like material. The Church has got all the proofs for miracles. ''I think permission won't be granted to examine it. Video – A Beautiful Documentary About the Yamabushi Monks in Japan, Why Obeying Orders Can Make Us Do Terrible Things, Audio – First human clinical trials involving a bionic eye set to begin, Audio – ‘I choose to be a cyborg’: Why I implanted computer chips in my hands, Audio – The Naked Truth About Raelians And Their UFO Religion. Oldest first, -1) ? Independent Premium Comments can be posted by members of our membership scheme, Independent Premium. When the milk came into contact with the statues, its surface tension slowly pulled the liquid onto the statue. Please In May 1917 in Fatima, Portugal, three children claimed to have encountered the Virgin Mary out in the countryside, who told them she would return on the thirteenth day over the next few months. Today's widespread scientific illiteracy, even an outright attitude of anti-science, is concurrent with the spread of magical thinking even in our own relatively enlightened culture. Here are four notable examples: 1. A miracle it’s a wonderful thing, another gift of Our Lord, and if it happen Amen, if not there’s another Amen. Most liked. will be published daily in dedicated articles. The last month I’ve had the chance to see a documentary in the Italian public television about Lourdes, and naturally they talked about miracles. '', Dr Garlaschelli said the actual madonna of Siracusa is kept behind a glass partition and he is unable to inspect its glazing for himself. The skeptics can go there to the Vatican and consult the archives or to Lourdes or to Fatima. "Nowadays madonnas weep blood. Sanal Edamauku, president of the Indian Rationalist Association came in to investigate, and on national television he proclaimed his findings to millions of Indians: the wall behind the statue was leaking and growing algae. Want to discuss real-world problems, be involved in the most engaging discussions and hear from the journalists? The red sea may divide, yet there seems to be no cause, but in fact the cause is from the outside and thus the cause can not be seen here on the inside. There has been an sharp increase in the sightings of weeping madonnas, from Ireland to Croatia, but the only one recognised by the Church is a statue of the Virgin Mary in the town of Siracusa in Sicily. For thousands of years, people have been chalking up mysterious phenomena to religious “miracles,” assuming these events to be the work of deities. I have always wondered why one of the major Catholic presses, such as Ignatius or Paulist Press, has not compiled a book listing each saint of modern times and described in detail the miracles offered as evidence for their canonization, and described why each could not have been the result of non-supernatural causes. As a Catholic priest with a double first in Natural Sciences from Cambridge, and a doctorate in organic chemistry, this is naturally something which interests me. Thus it appears to be a miracle, an event without any apparent cause. Or better still, do something really impressive, like resurrecting a cremated person? I always laugh inside when somebody tries to disprove God’s power or existence by demonstrating the method he used for his miracles! they can to create a true meeting of independent Premium. 'active' : ''"> Spontaneous remission is something cancers, for example, do. Scientists EXPECT us to believe that the Big Bang arose spontaneously, naturally (as opposed to supernaturally) from absolutely nothing. The Chinese pyramids Are considered a national secret! 'active' : ''"> Luke 12:31 No; set your hearts on his kingdom, and these other things will be given you as well. We can hardly expect anything more. He went on to accuse the Catholic church of being anti-science and mocked the Pope for condoning exorcism, angering Indian Catholics. Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, Science debunks miracle of weeping madonna, Email already exists. In 150 years the church and the medical commission, they acknowledge no more than 63 miracles and instead, the ‘miracles’ happened, would be thousands. try again, the name must be unique, Please Government Keeps its Citizens in the Dark! 3. The “Weeping” Virgin Mary of Sicily. And if he does only miracles that require faith to accept them, why does he bother, since the faith cannot be strengthened by them? Sharing the full story, not just the headlines. Independent Premium. Space Aliens Could In Fact Be Watching Us, Robots will replace human judges in 50 years, expert claims, Ross Pomeroy - RCP Staff - Real Clear Science. Sceptics say that the miracles we use as evidence for beatifications and canonisations are not really miracles, but due to either spontaneous remission or some other medical reason as of yet unknown. Leave a comment Pinning everything which is unexplainable on a “medical reason yet unknown” is something I like to call Science of the Gaps. Video – How Close Are We to Building a Moon Base? Edamaruku was subsequently charged with blasphemy. It is not true. However, the other onlookers witnessed what has been called a “sun miracle”. Dr Garlaschelli has made his own weeping madonna which baffled onlookers into believing the statue was able to shed tears without any mechanical or electronic aids or the deployment of water-absorbing chemicals. That is a matter of opinion, but my own opinion is that miracles never happen. Some examples: Fatima was just a lying little girl, the Shroud of Turin was a medieval fraud, the image of Guadalupe is just a painting, and incorruptible saints weren't anything of the sort. The Feet of a Jesus Statue Drips Water. miracles are remissions. Are you sure you want to mark this comment as inappropriate? Thus it is to be understood that it only seems miraculous if the full picture, both the CAUSE and the EFFECT are not both seen. Therefore, it could not have been a miracle.” Because God can only operate and answer prayers in ways that don’t make sense, right? Well, it means that the skeptics cannot write off the miracle as a fraud, an error or an ordinary occurrence with a known explanation. On that day, the Virgin Mary “appeared”, but only to the children – very suspicious. In 1953, a statue of the Virgin Mary in a couple’s house in Syracuse, Sicily apparently started shedding human tears. 6 Views. Want an ad-free experience?Subscribe to Independent Premium. Interview: Is the Moon an Artificial Alien Base? 'active' : ''"> For thousands of years, people have been chalking up mysterious phenomena to religious “miracles,” assuming these events to be the